HORSE BETING- IN GAMES OTHER THAN CRAPS.

[Knick111]

GREETINGS,--is any body on this board, a winner at horse betting? jaime new member on this board. tell me your story. JAIME FROM SUNNY PUERTO RICO. .

[heavy]

I've been fairly successful with the ponies, although it's been a couple of years since I played them. For me, handicapping is a whole lot of work and I don't really trust most of the pro handicappers' opinions. I do have some rules for betting that I got from John Patrick years ago that have served me well.

1. Do not bet large fields.
2. Do not bet low stakes claimers.
3. Do not bet maidens.
4. Bet the best horse, the best trainer, and the best jockey.

That gets you down to one or two races per track - per day, which means you have to go to the pavillion in order to bet tracks across the country. Sometimes I'd be betting Lone Star in Dallas plus one of the quarter horse tracks in Louisiana, one of the tracks in Florida, another in California, etc. in order to spread enough action to make it worthwhile.

Anybody else playing the ponies? Betting them on-line? Approach to betting?

[Mad Professor]

Stanford Wong wrote a superb book on handicapping back around the Ford/Carter era. The principals in it are still solid today. It's called Betting Cheap Claimers.

Now the book itself is out of print, but you can download it for FREE on Wong's site.


I'm going to assume that it's okay with the big guy that I post the preface here, and then provide a link to the download at the end of it.


Betting Cheap Claimers by Stanford Wong
Introduction

PREFACE

Betting on horses is fun. You have mountains of information to analyze. You can back your analysis with hard cash. You can compete against other people who are trying to do the same thing you are. You can yell at the horses and jockeys. You have to wait only minutes until the race is over and you learn the correctness of your analysis. You can interact with your opponents, the other bettors, as much as you want before, during, and after the race.

On page 164 of Betting Thoroughbreds, Steven Davidowitz says to get ready to bet just one track "takes about thirty to fifty hours of advance work, requires two hours of daily follow-up, and yields approximately one to three good bets a day." Other expert handicappers probably would agree with Davidowitz on the hours invested. And they probably would agree on the number of worthwhile bets per day. Tom Ainslie, one of the most respected names in handicapping, mentions days when he went to the track intending to bet but ended up making not a single bet all day.

Suppose you don't want to devote thirty to fifty hours to learn all about one track. Suppose you don't want to devote two hours a day to keep up with one track. Suppose what you do want is on occasional visits to Las Vegas to be able to walk into a racebook and find a good bet. If that is what you want, then this book is for you.

This book explains three ways that a casino customer who visits a racebook only occasionally can make money betting on thoroughbred horses. These three things do not require a continuing daily investment of time to keep up with the news of the sport.

Click here to read the rest of the book



MP

[CrapsForever]

There has not been a Triple Crown Winner since 1978 (Affirmed). I ONLY bet on horses during the Triple Crown Races as long as the same horse won the first two legs.

Here's my full strategy:

I wait for the same horse to win the first two legs of the Triple Crown. Usually this causes the odds on the third race (Belmont Stakes) to be completely out of whack. Then I bet equal amounts on every horse in the Field (Excluding the Favorite). I have done this 4 times and made a profit all 4 times (2002, 2003, 2004, 2008).

My most profitable win was in 2003 when I bet the most $$$. I was very disappointed last year when my betting opportunity was wasted when "I'll Have Another" who won the first two legs of the Triple Crown had to drop out of the 3rd leg of the Triple Crown Attempt with Tendonitis.

Granted it's a small sample size but I don't believe a horse will win the Triple Crown in my lifetime...hoping the opportunities keep on occurring to make my favorite bet.

[heavy]

The most I ever LOST on a single race was around $600. Basically I was parlaying my wins from race to race up until the final race of the day. In that race I had the horse with the best blood lines, best speed record, best jockey, best trainer, and best poll position. I bet him straight up to win plus wheeled him with every other horse in the race. The horse stumbled coming out of the gate, recovered and fell into last place. He moved up to finish fourth and I had some expensive tickets to litter the floor with.

[Lkwd]

Heavy

What was that phrase that you post quite often from Bennie Binion?


Lkwd

[Knick111]

MP GREETINGS. thank you for your information,on mr. wong's book. i down loaded the book. after skiming over the book, it's books like this one-that make players that bet on horse's losers. to much information. why do you think it takes horse betters so much time to handicap a race. to much info. why do you think heavy-gave up on the ponies. to much info. it would take him and every other handicaper hours and hours and hours to handicap. and at the end of the day- they would come up with the favoriate. as i've told you before, i used to make my living betting on horses. you, and everybody else out their, should not take more then five minutes to handicap a race. the secert is the betting. i can teach you mp, and everybody else out their-how to handicap a race in five minutes. also i can teach you how to bet in five minutes. i can teach you, how to spot the horse you are going to bet in that race. people make handicapping hard on themselves. just like in craps-people think to much on how they are going to throw the dice. again, they have to much information. they don't know what info to use when they pick up the dice. it should not take you more then 3 secounds-to pick up the dice and shoot them. that's enough for today mp and heavy. adios. jaime.

[heavy]

Lkwd - you are correct. Never bet on anything that eats or shits.

[Mad Professor]

~Never go into business with a guy whose first name is also the name of a state.

~Never marry a woman who has more tattoos than teeth.


MP

[Lkwd]

~ ~Never marry a woman who has more tattoos than teeth.


MP

MP

I once dated a women who had the words " Heavens Above" tattooed on Her upper thigh.


Lkwd

[heavy]

Never have sex with a woman you wouldn't want to introduce to your mother.

Don't stick that thing in everything it points at.

[amish dude]

Never have sex with a woman you wouldn't want to introduce to your mother.

Don't stick that thing in everything it points at.

or you could not have sex with her until you met her mother

[DeadCat]

Never sleep with a woman who has more problems than you do.

[heavy]

Never sleep with a woman who would stoop so low as to sleep with you.

We could go on like this forever . . .

[oldjoe]

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