CRAPLESS CRAPS

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CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by kumar » Wed May 21, 2025 3:34 pm

I see more and more casinos offering Crap less Craps. For example at Harrahs in Biloxi if they have only one crew available they open Crap less Craps. The casino in Virginia does the same. The Beau Rivage in Biloxi on Friday and Saturday nights has 2 out of 7 tables dedicated to Crap less Craps and during the week one out of 3 tables are Crap less. In Blackhawk the Caesars property has one out of two tables dedicated to Crap less.

I dont blame the casinos; it draws action junkies and is a bigger money maker

I struggle with trying to find a strategy to survive on such tables specially since one cant hedge by a Lay and any suggestions would be most welcome.

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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by heavy » Wed May 21, 2025 4:30 pm

Well, my favorite play is to Place the extreme outside for table minimum (buy them if it's a $25 table) and then Lay either the Four or Ten on the Come Out. Set for the Horn numbers and toss a Horn number on the Come Out, setting it as the point hopefully. A three craps, for instance, on a $25 Buy bet pays $75. Take down the Buy bet and the $75. Take $25 odds on the Pass Line bet. Press the rest of the Extreme Outside numbers with the remaining three units. Then Place the Six and Eight. Then I go back to my Six and Eight set, which kicks off a lot of Ace Deuces and Yos, and toss as long a hand as I can from there. Take and Press on the Horn numbers. Just collect on the Six and Eight to get some money in the rack until everything is pretty much paid for. Don't forget to take down that Come Out LAY bet because you don't want to knock yourself off a $200 No Ten or No Four.
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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by DarthNater » Wed May 21, 2025 10:30 pm

My best advice.....

* * * KNOW YOUR HORN SETS * * *

My best approach has been total commitment to the Extremes for this I have spent hundreds of hours with Bonetracker to no only realize those primary sets that are Horn Strong; but also what their secondary results are when then miss on the horns.

Plus I start on the come-out with my strongest horn set, and bet the Horn/Ace-deuce, plus the field - wanting to get paid twice as all the horns + 4, 9, and 10 are sometimes high secondary numbers. Also if the crapless has the ATS, then absolutely get on it also as horns are usually the tougher numbers to complete an ATS.

Oh, and always press the Extreme that hits, good luck, DN8R
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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by 220Inside » Thu May 22, 2025 1:07 am

Knowing your horn sets is critical for real success at crapless.

There's definite money to be made on crapless, but on the flip side it can be a humbling game if the horns aren't hitting. It's either feast or famine.

Because of this, I play a transition game. I play my standard inside steep regression play just like on a regular table, using my best inside set. I extend my usual 2 hit regression strategy by an additional hit and use the winnings on that extra hit to place the extremes, with everything paid for and a little profit in the rack. From there, I switch to my best horn set and focus exclusively on them with aggressive press schedules. I'll scale back my usual press schedules on the box numbers a bit in order to lock up more profits.

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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by kumar » Sat May 24, 2025 5:16 am

Great feedback ;all 3 posts were excellent ;thank you

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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by coaster » Mon May 26, 2025 12:08 pm

I agree kumar, all three posts were excellent.

These three are all great shooters, they can be referred to as the Big Three. The interesting thing to me was their individual approaches.
Each have Their Own way to approach the crapless game. The question is how did they each find their relatively different strategies? I would guess by knowing their base line shot, using BT to find the best sets to do the damage they want to inflict and practicing not only tossing the dice but also betting.

Starting with an idea of what fits your own style BT gives you the data to implement it or make adjustments. I bet if there were no names to go with those three posts many of us could pretty easily match each to it’s author. I can see each of them in their strategy.

To me the big take away for all from these three posts? Stay within your own comfort zone and structure your play for your own style. Not only for crapless but also for all parts of the normal game. Staying in your comfort zone is a great advantage.

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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by goreala40 » Wed May 28, 2025 11:26 pm

i'm a bubble crap fanatic i drive 1hr three times a week just to play in cripple creek colorado . my current br is about 500 $ i only play about 400 of that a session . i wish they had crapless but they don't i feel like the odd man out.anyway i'm very anti socal in public places hence me playing bubble craps in the morning time . my sessions last from 8am-12pm . trying to get serious about bubble craps . been watching yt about three weeks and got lost in the weeds with all the info . hoping the group can guide me in the right direction hoping to carve out a small profit margin for myself every session. for the past week my strategy has been all over the place i.e arnold , power pressing , i think i settle on 6&8 or the 5689 strategy . was unable to go this morning due to weather conditions and thursday . friday -sunday look better as far as weather goes hope to hear from the group positive or with constructive criticism to make me a better bubble craps player thank you in this matter in advance

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Re: CRAPLESS CRAPS

Post by heavy » Fri May 30, 2025 2:48 am

Be cautious watching the YouTubers in general because they're in the business of building followers so they can monetize their sites. That means they only show stuff that makes you feel good, like WINNERS and LONG ROLLS and BULLSHIT like that. They rarely show their losses. There is a guy who plays a lot of bubble craps who has been doing a $1000 in two roll challenge where he bets his entire $1K bankroll, spreading it across all of the numbers, the hardways, the horns, virtually every bet on the table. Then he bounces the dice for two decisions and cashes out. Although sometimes he bounces the dice three or four times because why? He's trying to build followers and it's more exciting to see him dance with the devil. Anyway, this guy seems to go fairly well, but if he loses his videos cut off very quickly at the end and you can't really tell how BAD he got beat. Bad enough, I suspect.

Anyway, the main thing is to Plan your Play and Play your Plan.
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