Hop betting

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advdel77
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Hop betting

Post by advdel77 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:23 am

I never have really done any hop betting except for hopping the 7 on the come out roll. I saw this post of hopping the 4,5,7,10. $2 on each bet. 1/3,2/2,2/3,1/4,1/6,2/5/1/6,4/6,5/5. $18 total, then $36, $72, $144,, $288, $576. I doubt I would go past $288 but interesting. Have not done the math but supposedly each level will get your money back plus profit. Might be a strategy for bubble craps when tables are full?

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Re: Hop betting

Post by Golfer » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:37 pm

Hi Advdel77,

Hop bets are the crack cocaine of craps. I never did cocaine, but I have hopped untold bets during my 45+ years of playing craps. There are a lot of strategies here and there. I have 3 types. 1st I hedge on come-outs when playing dark. I will size the hop bets on the 7, and sometimes on the 11, to cover my flat Don't bet.

2nd is playing the PL, I will hop the red and play a world plus a $2 Hi-Low (the hi-low part was taught to me by his Heaviness). This stuff is pure "game within a game" stuff. Search the Board for come-out strategies. For kicks I allocate a portion of my bankroll to see what happens. On winners I usually press.

My 3rd strategy is called, "Feeling it". That's when I have a DP and maybe one or more DC bets up (usually with odds) and I feel the 7 is coming. I will toss out $6 or $15 and hop the reds. The last few years I will toss the stick $10 and tell him Hop the Red for $9 and $1 for the dealers.

It is fun when they hit.

My biggest single win on the hop bets was when I was up and had $25 up on a hardway number. $25 * 30 = $775 and down.

My favorite is hopping the red when shooting. My best there was hitting 7 five times in a row. I pressed after each but if I would have parlayed like some I know have done, I would have had as much cash as Heavy :lol:

Test the waters slowly. Enjoy, but always do it with discipline.

Good Luck\
Golfer

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Re: Hop betting

Post by kumar » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:08 pm

The time I hop bets is
-When a shooter is deep in his roll and there is a disturbance,enough to call bets off. At that point I will hop the number that has been pressed up the most so in case that number hits I dont miss a payoff
-A number is repeating significantly;in that case I will hop it on the come-out

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Re: Hop betting

Post by Tgold » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:46 pm

Good thread advdel77

Thx for all the replies.

I seldom Hop although I will occasionally utilize a Hop12 on a Dc in the chute. Typically, this is only when my wager is pressed to a higher level. The Hop amount is only for covering the amount of $ that I have at risk in the wager. I then lay odds for the amount (rounded up slightly for breakage) of the just-lost Hop bet.


All the best,
All the best,
Tgold

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Re: Hop betting

Post by goreala40 » Thu May 29, 2025 10:13 pm

So if I'm technically considered the shooter in bubble craps every round does that mean I should be placing a hop bet every come out

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Re: Hop betting

Post by heavy » Fri May 30, 2025 2:35 am

What are you trying to accomplish by making a Hop bet on the Come Out on a bubble craps machine? I cannot think of many instances where I'd make that bet if I were to play a bubble craps machine, which it's highly unlikely you'll catch me doing. About the only time I could envision myself doing it would be to hedge a Don't Bet of some sort OR if I were doing a very short run of Darby's Field Bet Strategy (I bet most of you never heard that one) which is a bet on the Five, Six, and Eight plus a Field Bet. Oh, you say. That's the Iron Cross. Yeah, but back in the mid 1900's it was called Darby's Field Bet. Anyway, as I've said here many times, instead of Placing the Five for $15 on a $15 table as most players would do, I prefer to Hop the fives for $2, which would yield a $15 payoff, less the $1 losing bet for a net $14 in most casinos. So, if you played $15 in the Field and the Five rolled you'd only lose net $1. But you reduce your Sevens Exposure by $13 every time you use the Hop Bet instead of the Place Bet. Now, that was really going around the horn to give you an answer you didn't want, but I thought it might be helpful to others. But as far as bubble craps is concerned, I probably would avoid the Hoppers.
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