Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

I tried flip/flop during a game or two but it wasn't for me. Kept opting for the wrong side each time.
It was more frustrating than sticking within one side and riding it out.
From that point I opted to always play the Pass Line.
Others seem to always play the Don't.

For those that vary, when do you decide?
Do you start your day thinking : "I am playing the Don't (or Pass) today."
or
Do you walk up to the table thinking : "I am playing the Don't (or Pass) this session."'
or
Decide to flip/flop as the game plays out?

I decide before I ever walk into the casino.

You should always come to the table with a prepared plan in mind. But also be prepared to recognize what the table is giving you during the course of the session and adapt as necessary.

Never predetermine your play prior to a session. Play what the table gives you, two out of three is a pattern, six count is the key number in dice and the don't play should be your default play. Sixty seven percent is the don't math on a roll ending by roll number six, 4 box numbers, 1 horn and a 7. Let the math determine your play, is the 7 expanding or contracting in the math game.

DP and lay the long lost number. Determining the lost number is just not looking at what box number has not been seen in the past few rolls. We have a few more indicators to determine what to lay and when to take it down.

Lost number play is one I use now and then. My count is 11 or 12 on a number before I will lay it. That is..the number has not appeared in that many rolls and here it comes. I do wait after the number one roll. No bullfrogging gonna get me. Another thing to consider is Ronald Graham's craps analysis which I have cited before on this forum. In 125k rolls the 10 and 4 did not appear more than 8 times in a hand. Doesn't mean it won't happen some time, but six tens or fours and I usually start on my no bets. My lay numbers stay up three rolls max. After all you expect a seven fast, right? This is all craps lore anyway, but patterns help humans get through the trials even though we really know down deep that every craps roll from a random shooter..is random and will conform over time to the bell curve.

Bet once. If it bites me, I do not continue with it. After all, if it's a 4 or 10 we're talking $41 buck outlay at the minimum. I admit I have bet no 4 or 10 after they have shown six times in a hand and martingaled the bet if I lost. $41 first bet, lose that I go to $152. Have never lost the second bet. I think I'd stop there with a loss of $193. Could happen. By the way these are bets I only make when I'm ahead already.

Been following some hands posted on one of the FB groups today for a group playing together at a casino that will remain nameless. The hands were very instructional if you took time to analyze them. These are not precise numbers, but general examples:

Shooter 1 - 14 numbers - 1 pass
Shooter 2 - 9 numbers - 1 pass
Shooter 3 - 6 numbers - 0 pass
Shooter 4 - PSO
Shooter 5 - 17 numbers - 2 passes
Shooter 6 - 11 numbers - 1 pass
Shooter 7 - 8 numbers - 0 pass
Shooter 8 - 5 numbers - 0 pass
Shooter 9 - PSO
Shooter 10 - PSO
Shooter 11 - 23 numbers - 3 passes

Okay, you get the drill. See the trend. Hands of decreasing length. Starting out making one pass. Then no passes. Then PSO's. Then a break out hand followed by more of the same. How would I bet this once I recognized it? OHCM until the first PSO. Then a bare DP with single odds. Rinse and repeat. Transition to right side if a breakout hand occurs.

Thick morning brain here. So number 1 threw 14 numbers and made 1 pass and didn't get the dice back? Or is number 2 the same shooter? I guess it doesn't matter. It's obvious there are decreasing successful rolls and we head for the don'ts. Here's what would have happened to me. I wait and TUMA the first roll. I'm on the second roll $18 6 and 8, regress and press..pick up some bucks. I'm on again 3rd roll and probably just press and pull from money made on the first roll. I might hold off on the next roll because of the decline, but then I'd be on the don'ts after the PSO and get caught by part of the 17 roll. 11 numbers..no play. Shooter seven gets a DC after the CO with maybe a $1 yo. Then I go DP on 9, etc. Get caught on shooter 11. I can see how OHCM might help. I never use it, but should consider it in a decline situation only.

I always go with the shooters, unless I know the shooter to be horrible or two table turn with short rolls. But never on a know DI that made me money before, I will take only 1 number but keep going do side. Less intimidating for them and you never know when they’ll shoot 25+ out of the blue.

Was on a cold table recently. I'm a very conservative player. I played the pass line, after point was established I played a $40 don't come and $32 across. Worked out for a profit for me even with a no six and eight. So I guess i'm playing both sides, or right side with a $40 hedge.