Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

acpa wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:26 pm Question, are you talking about going to $25 on a 5 or 9? What does that pay, and or do they let you buy the 5 or 9.
I assume when you say take the two greens and make in $10 that it pays $35 and you take the green that was you bet and the green you were paid, so it pays $35 then. Right?

Noah

Hi noah. Right. Stratocasterman described it perfectly.

stratocasterman wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:44 pm Yes that would be correct.
The $25 bet pays $35. He takes the $35 win with $15 of his place bet and back down to $10 place bet. Right Bankerdude80?

Yes sir.

Here's one for you mad, brave souls. Hop 6 and 8 ten each and $20 field bet. A quick loss of $40 on a 7 or 5, go even on a field number, but
do real nice if a 6 or 8 hits. And even nicer if it's a hardway. Saw a guy doing this and he hit a hard six and then a hard eight..right in a row.
Still..I wasn't convinced to try it.

I would guess he goes high for a dollar on the hard hop.

You're really hoping for the hard 6 or 8 on that play. A soft 6 or 8 will net you $8. A hardway hit will net $83

Yes. Anyway it was a perverse Iron Cross type bet that is truly terrible and really shouldn't be in this thread "Best Betting Strategy." At least with the regular Iron Cross the six and eight hang around for a while..sometimes.

If you push the hops to $12 each and go $22 on the field, the net on the soft 6/8 jumps to $18 and a hardway hit drops slightly to $78. A 2/12 field hit nets $22. Could be slightly interesting if you can really bang out the 6/8's but there are certainly better pure plays for that scenario.

To play this perverted IC and only break even on a field number? How dumb can you be and still breath?

House of Orange wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm To play this perverted IC and only break even on a field number? How dumb can you be and still breath?

[inhaling...]

Wow...harsh.

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Perverted is a great description of the play. The house edge is not good on that combo of bets.

London Shooter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:01 pm Perverted is a great description of the play. The house edge is not good on that combo of bets.

The IC assumes getting paid 30 rolls out of 36. If you have to count on 4 rolls instead: 2, 12, H6, & H8 ............the seven is more likely...........are you smarter than a fifth grader?

Agreed. Now..give us the HofO best betting strategy. Flat betting the P or DP? Come bet? Do you ever bet on other shooters?

If I'm betting on other shooters 1 DC. Base bet is whatever flat I need to take $30 odds no matter what the point is. Up $30 on a loss down $30 on a win and lots of patience sometime.

I have no problem walking away from a table if I'm down. Personally I feel that "having to win every session" is not a good trait to possess.

Nothing pisses off the casino more than to see you walk when they know you still have plenty of money in your pocket.

thnick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:48 am Agreed. Now..give us the HofO best betting strategy. Flat betting the P or DP? Come bet? Do you ever bet on other shooters?

Stepladder progression on DP, single lay odds. Works only on an empty table!
Would like to know, from Irish, that 36 number system!

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Hop every combination for a dollar. You'll win $30 every roll. lol.

might be a one roll deal like IC+hop sevens?

Can your toss average at least one inside #5, 6, 8, or 9 before the 7 out.
If so consider this on different min. table limits.
I only bet this on my own toss, and prefer the 25.00 table, because they are less busy and can usually get my spot. It also earns you a good comp rating. The 600.00 inside bet is also less hassle for the dealers, after the first hit I tell them to reduce them all to 25.00 and I toss in 10.00 to make the 6 & 8 30.00 each. This way they do not have to make any change and the game moves faster.

25.00 Table
2,600.00 buy in
Pass line 25.00/no odds
Place 600.00 inside #5 #6 #8 #9
Starting Place Bet size 125.00 150.00 150.00 125.00
On 1st hit regress to 110.00 inside 25.00 30.00 30.00 25.00
Any 1st hit pays 175.00 less the 110.00 still working on the table, locks up a $60.00 profit for the hand, and now you still have 110.00 of the Casino’s money working for you.

15.00 Table
1,400 buy in
Pass line 15.00/no odds
Place 330.00 inside #5 #6 #8 #9
Starting Place Bet size 75.00 90.00 90.00 75.00
On 1st hit regress to 66.00 inside 15.00 18.00 18.00 15.00
Any 1st. hit pays 105.00 less the 66.00 still working on the table, locks up a $39.00 profit for the hand, and now you still have 66.00 of the Casino’s money working for you.


10.00 Table
1,000 buy in
Pass line 10.00/no odds
Place 220.00 inside #5 #6 #8 #9
Starting Place Bet size 50.00 60.00 50.00 60.00
On 1st hit regress to 44.00 inside 10.00 12.00 12.00 10.00
Any 1st hit pays 70.00 less the 44.00 still working on the table, locks up a $26.00 profit for the hand, and now you still have 44.00 of the Casino’s money working for you.

5.00 Table
500 buy in
Pass line 5.00/no odds
Place 110.00 inside #5 #6 #8 #9
Starting Place Bet size 25.00 30.00 30.00 25.00
On 1st hit regress to 22.00 inside 5.00 6.00 6.00 5.00
Any 1st hit pays 35.00 less the 22.00 still working on the table, locks up a $13.00 profit for the hand, and now you still have 22.00 of the Casino’s money working for you.

PSO, then what?
PSO, PSO, then what??

My go to strategy is playing a low house edge DP or DC.

I surmise you lose your a$$ on any PSOs. Are.you WOTCO with this play? Do you place the point number if it's inside with this play? Why $25 more on the five than the nine in first scenario? Is that an arbitrary amount?

(Response to Icecube's post above)