Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

Over on the crapsforum.com website a member posted the following series of numbers he tracked in the casino, complaining that nobody could shoot. I disagreed. I see huge win opportunities here. I thought I'd post the actual rolls he tracked here and get your comments - then give a few of my own. Here are the rolls:

1) 7 9 9 4 7
2) 6 10 6 10 8 3 8 9 4 9 8 6 5 7
3) 5 7
4) 7 7 9 8 8 9 5 6 8 5 6 11 5 6 5 7
5) 2 5 4 5 10 8 6 8 12 3 7
6) 8 6 3 2 7
7) 8 6 9 8 10 8 10 8 4 3 5 10 6 9 6 5 9 5 8 6 3 9 8 7
8) 6 6 12 9 4 4 8 6 6 3 10 9 6 7
9) 4 5 4 6 6 5 8 9 10 5 8 6 2 9 5 5 7

Unfortunately, the poster did not track whether or not numbers rolled hard or easy. Nor did he track those "energy draining events" I mention from time to time. To that end, I can't do an in depth TrendMasters analysis of the rolls. However, I can note a couple of things that are quickly obvious. Look at shooter #3 - the PSO. I would have had no action on the table because I wait until the shooter tosses a box number after establishing a point before placing any money in action. Next look at shooter #5. Decent hand. Just before he sevened out he rolled a 12, then a 3. Of course, I would hav been "see a horn" boy. But also, I would have had my bets turned off when that seven showed. Ditto shooter #6. Last of all - look at all of the sixes and eights. Sixes and eights should show up around 28% of the time. Throughout this series - sixes and eights showed up over 40% of the time. Can you spell "six and eight progression?" Even starting with minimum bets, you should make $300 or more off shooter #7's had. Anyway, let me hear from some of you "charters." Based on your "rules for the road" and these roll results - how would you have done and why?

Heavy,

For clarification purposes; those 9 hands posted above were from ONE Shooter.

The Poster at CrapsForum.com had these 9 hands when he was in AC and was upset nobody else could throw a decent hand over 10 rolls in the 3 hours he played there.

Okay, no problem. Again, a random roller is going to average around 8.3 rolls per hand. But we should qualify all shooters before betting on them IMHO - or limit ourselves to a single bet - Pass or Don't Pass, Place the Point, Place the Sister to the point, etc. ONE bet. Or play it smart and not bet on the unknown shooters.

So let's go with the fact that this guy's hands were as listed. Let's assume he bet on no one but himself. Should he have turned a profit for the session? Are there any "indicators" in there that would have led to more profit? How would you have played the hands - assuming you were the shooter? Thoughts?

I would call that a hot table.

If I were playing the pass and one come bet, I'm sure I would have turned a nice profit on those nine rolls.