Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by DanF » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:28 pm

Make a pass then a DC, drop odds and spread other numbers depending on your bankroll ... you will have a high bet up and a low exposure. When in profits drop your odds down and make a paroli or a fibonaci progression

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by House of Orange » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:10 pm

I would think, the more you have an edge, the more you bet, the more you make. MP said; "Regression avoids depression". Wong said; "Same Bet" over and over again. What does Irish say?

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by heavy » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:12 am

Some of Wong's old board members essentially said "bet everything you have" if you have the kind of SRR's that many of us talk about. Wong's "same bet" theory was based on you making a correct sized bet according to your advantage and your bankroll. If that sounds familiar - we've talked about the Kelly Criterion before. I tend to agree with that. Of course, I don't bet that way - although once I sat down and ran the numbers and was surprised to find out how close my betting came to what Wong suggested IF you averaged the size of my bets together for any given hand. Of course, back then I was both regressing, pressing, then taking a second regression at a pre-planned stage before pressing aggressively.

Of course, back in the Wong era a lot of folks were talking about SRR's in the double digits - while the board members over there said anything over something like a 6.2 and you should own the casino. Frankly, a long run SRR in excess of 7.2 or so is the stuff of dreams. Over the long run, a double digit SRR over the long run is highly suspect. I've actually met players who claimed to have SRR's in the 50's. To that I say "show me." Of course, that never happens.
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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by DanF » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:54 am

You can't always play the same, you can't have only one way of thinking. You have to go with the general flow the game give you. And if you know a guy is very bad lucked but you are a do side player... there is nothing wrong with switching side for one player... you lose less so your profits are worth double! (As you win instead of losing on him)...

There is 1001 ways to play this game.
Continuous press is a good way to play if you have backup on a winning session.

Regression play is a good way to go when you are starting a session...

Why not do both. Gage your play with the vibe and be creative. See this for 5$ on the 4 or 10. You can press it to 15 for 3$, to 40, then to 120... if you get 3 hits and regress to 5$, you lockup 350$ from less then 10$.
But if you start at 10 and do a normal progression you might win 70-80$... 3 consecutive press and down is the paroli betting. It's a risk but it pays off when it hits.

But when table is choppy you will empty your pockets this way, you need to take hits at same bet.
I found many ways to progress bets. And winning needs a part of this.

But sometimes you will do better going with come bet protections 10 pass then 15 come. Or plain dark side betting...2 dark bet with odds can take you up 60$ instead of losing 66 inside.

You got to feel the table vibe! Know who's shooting... has he been on a long losing streak etc.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by rhythm roller » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:38 am

Even if one believed that (pick a number) was due, who is to say that number isn't being tossed at a Craps table in Macau right now more than the math dictates or even at another table in the same casino. Where would it be due? Just my opinion.
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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by Dylanfreake » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:54 am

Can someone come up with a program that incorporates a DI having a 6.2 SRR using a random numbers generator? Then compare that to a standard random numbers generator.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by six shooter » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:49 pm

Irish....Have you ever seen Lou play? Yes or NO
Would you like to put your money out to back up your mouth with a challenge bet against Lou? Yes or No

Two simple questions, just would like a simple yes or no on each.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by six shooter » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:09 pm

Irish..did you get our Valentine yesterday. We play dice not math forums, we figured again that you did not see Lou play and you would not accept a dice challenge.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by DanF » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:31 pm

You know well the rules of statistics irish.
But two things aren't statistics:

The law of nature's order: nature tends not to leave voids empty.

And the law of random events: random events tend to happen in streaking patterns.

It means the same as surfing, you can't ride every wave, but you can anticipate one from time to time, unless you some handicap or lack of preparation prevents you from it.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by six shooter » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:39 pm

One Thousand (1000) one hour sessions, does that sound appealing. Three hundred flights to Vegas, Irish safe zone, sounds like Hillary on her campaign, stupid personal attacks and no substance. Why not a something fair and balanced, $25,000, in a neutral place like Tunica, 10 sessions and we will provide pet therapy, legos and play dough for you after the completed sessions.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by London Shooter » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:45 pm

DF I'm sure wincraps can be set to generate rolls based on an input SRR of whatever you want.

I only use the basic features of that software however so happy to be corrected if I have it wrong.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by DanF » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:40 pm

10x6h with 36 roll an hour is 2160 roll. So for a fair 10000 roll session you would need to make 48-50 session to make it a good sample... with casino stress of real money betting, but who is going to pay 50 days of hotel and flights to prove a point...

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by DanF » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:42 pm

Not saying he's not scamming people, but we'll never know

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by Kelph » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:30 pm

Of course there are lucky streaks but the luck is being at the correct table at the correct time when the variance occurs. See, lots of luck involved.

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by wild child » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:15 pm

Barron Von Rothschild granted an interview near the end of his Earthly existence.
He answered the KEY FACTOR TO HIS GATHERING IMMENSE WEALTH

was

" I FREQUENTLY choose to exit the party early ......

while available to attend any (to him ) interesting opportunity
........ or words to that effect............."

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by heavy » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:04 am

I plan to create many lucky streaks at craps in Biloxi next weekend. I plan to capitalize on streaks at roulette and minibac. I will continually recite the "win win win, pay pay psy" mantra.
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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by wild child » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:19 pm

Patricia Demauro tossed her world Record 154 toss HAND
at the Borgata Casino & Hotel

DATE OF THE EVENT......May 23 ,2009

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There are currently a number of references to the event on
The inter web
the total list is too cumbersome to include in this post

a search of the internet will ferret out the multitude of references articles & posts


Here I reference at least two(2) with spinets plucked from several others

WoW posted some detailed stuff
and
WWW.NextShooter.Com
broke the hand down to :

154 Dice Tosses

25 Pass Line Tosses

Duration of THE World Record Hand 4 Hours and 18 Minutes ....

Neither the Bogata nor Ms Demauro released specific $ usd amounts........
.
Some article on The inter web guessed the Total TABLE DOLLAR DUMP @ $187,000 ( ALL PLAYERS)
>
Another morsel of trivia eluded to

the shooter bouncing THE Dice OFF the table 3 or 4 times
prior to tossing TWO(2) or THREE (3) Come Out SEVENS (7)

before to establishing ....The First of 25 Twenty-Five ( 25 ) Pass Line Numbers....
....
Patricia Demauro and her friend revisited the same craps table the next evening
HOWEVER FACTOR
they only observed
and
walked away without playing OR TOUCHING the Dice

No other mention of Ms Demauro ,in the inter web search was unearthed by me....
......
One other trivia munchie

her World Record 154 ROLL CRAPS HAND was about 20 years
after the other MEGA 147 roll hand recorded in Las Vegas.......

Something to chew on:

Will a NEW GREATER WORLD RECORD DICE TOSS
of greater than 154 tosses in ONE Dice Turn
occur in 2029 ?

Should you luck up on THAT HAND in 2029 ( or whenever ) will YOU be PREPARED to BREAK THE BANK ?

Wish Bogata would release the official video of the 154 Roll Hand....

Should someone be able to investigate deeper
and
find more detailed ROLL BY ROLL Detail

PLEASE POST it here on Heavy's AxisPowerCraps site.....

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by r_ventura_23 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:12 am

Patricia was from the town I went to high school in. Hope to match that roll some day. :)

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by 220Inside » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:30 am

r_ventura_23 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:12 am Patricia was from the town I went to high school in. Hope to match that roll some day.
I'll start with being happy to break the century mark. Baby steps :)

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Re: Is there really such a thing as a "lucky streak?"

Post by Big O » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:50 am

AH, Yes,
My Unicorn. I have only told one person, two counting my wife that from the beginning the record roll was a goal. That just goes to show my level of naivete when i started pursuing this game. Hey, set your sights high, right? For now im with 22inside, triple digits would be cool. If your going to be a bear might as well be a Grizzly!
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