Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Believe it or not, craps is not the only game in the casino. Savvy players have a back-up plan for when their craps game is off. If Heavy isn't winning at Craps you're likely to find him playing Baccarat, Blackjack, or even Roulette. If the table games aren't working out he may even take a cigar break in the high limit slot area for a little hit-and-run action. But just like craps - you have to plan your play and play your plan. If you have a question on slots, video poker, carnival games or any table games other than craps, this is the place to post. Let's hear about the games you play when you're not playing craps! What's your game? What's your strategy? How's that working out for you? Inquiring minds want to know!

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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by London Shooter » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:10 am

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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by heavy » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:07 am

Yep. LS has it correct. 80% of the content on the forum is "hidden" from non-members. At any given time we may have 10 - 12 members cruising the forum, while at the same time there will be twice as many "guests" browsing the public portions. Then you get to add in the "bots" that are crawling the site constantly. It's really amazing how many "clicks" this little forum gets a month. I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you. LOL. All of those "clicks" is why I keep getting e-mails from on-line casinos all over the world wanting me to bastardize the site by uploading a bunch of their content and advertisements. Highly unlikely.
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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by heavy » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:33 pm

I think maybe next year I'll put together a short strategy book defining my "Heavy's Third Base High-Low No Count Paroli Parlay Hey I'm Drunk Get Back Bet Blackjack Strategy." It's pretty much eye-in-the-sky proof, gives you a small edge over a 3-2 game and affords you the opportunity to play a sit-down game where you can turn a quick hit and run profit on a streak. $1995 and I'll include a perfect strategy players card and flash cards to help you memorize the plays. The average player can master it in 2 hours. Piece of cake for you guys. Of course, if you want the advanced version that's going to cost you some real money. . .
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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by 220Inside » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:56 am

WIll that include an appendix with how to throw that back hand spiral duck toss, or is that in the advanced version?

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Post by Moe Bettor » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:42 pm

I play a bit of blackjack and have been fairly successful at it. I go back to Beat the Dealer days and complex card counting which I never could master. But eventually, after reading and studying various ways to count, I came up my own drunken, no discipline and brainless method which is (1) I use the basic strategy and I play at a table with at least two other players.(2) More low cards come out versus high cards..a plus 3 (for 3 players). Count must get to 6 before I jump bets up. And then I usually wait a hand beyond my good count..or not. I do not play attention to hands with mostly high cards so I am never confused by minus counting. Keeping plus numbers seems to work better in my head and I'm only going to 6. (3) I will vary bets up and down for no reason. $15 this time, $10 next time. Let them figure it out. Two straight losses on dealer pulls of a 6 to a 15..a 9 to a 12, etc. I am gone from that table. Three straight losses for any reason and I am also finished. Yeah..there are other subtleties like when I may hit 17. I've done that when I'm ahead simply to break up the norm. I acknowledge that the hands are being watched from above and below. My theory, wrong or right, is if they cannot make sense of what you are doing,you are just a stupid gambler. Your losses you may have on varying bets for no reason are fully made up by the money you make when the count goes good.

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Post by mssthis1 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:53 am

scout wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:09 pm I came across a BJ game the other day that caused me to have a "double take".

There is a $5 single, hand dealt game. The game plays deck through the entire deck. There isn't a cut card.

For the last hand, in the event the deck has been exhausted while dealing it, the deck is shuffled and the cards are dealt to complete the last hand. Afterward, the deck is shuffled again.

I don't recall seeing that in any other casino.
Where was that at? The El Cortez has games like that but, on the quarter game for sure the dealer is either counting or trained to shuffle early if you raise your bet.

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Post by House of Orange » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:24 pm

Scout if it’s in Biloxi, send me a PM! Not driving west of Treasure Bay!

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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by stratocasterman » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:46 pm

Don't play BJ myself but, have been told by a couple here that the "Target Betting" strategy has worked well in BJ...
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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by Moe Bettor » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:31 pm

It seems to me there is a basic advantage in BJ over Bac. If you have any card awareness or counting you have an advantage. Card counting in bac doesn't exist, does it? I suppose if you had a photographic mind. Bac is simply luck and you keep having to back up your losses which can really drive you into a hole. The advantage games are craps and blackjack and a biased roulette situation. IMO.

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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by heavy » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:36 pm

There are some count strategies Gordon back variants, but they're generally geared toward side bets or when to bet Tie.
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Re: Blackjack - The game most craps players love to hate

Post by stratocasterman » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:01 pm

Blackjack here is dealt with 2 deck continuous shuffle machines.

Question: Isn't it impossible to count cards against these shufflers?
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