How to emulate the fire bet with odds? How would the Sharpshooter side bet be emulated?

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Billionaireben
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How to emulate the fire bet with odds? How would the Sharpshooter side bet be emulated?

Post by Billionaireben » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:30 pm

If you made 6 points in order, $1 turns into about $330 with fair odds.

They assume it won't come in order in the fire bet; though, you'd either have to bet a lot on the pass line or get 100x odds to go as high as they do. Since it's odds, there is no risk of crap out, you can bet a lot even with a low table limit (Where I play nearby, $300 max with 5x odds; that's $1500 max odds.)

The downside is figuring out how to structure it so you get a pay out on 3-4 points (or sooner) but still get payouts similar to fire bet if you have the expected repeating point numbers.


The Sharpshooter bet is less famous (I saw it at Hooters 2011), It pays on 3-10 winning passlines in a row before 7 out, to my knowledge; crap outs don't effect it.

How would one structure it so it's insured against crapouts? What is the smallest bet (pass line or odds/place?)

If it can be done, it may be much better since these are low house edge bets. I like the idea of a small bet that could grow into something big even if I take other bets down, but the house edge was high and involved paperwork on the rare occasion it hit the big one.

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Re: How to emulate the fire bet with odds? How would the Sharpshooter side bet be emulated?

Post by 220Inside » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:38 pm

You cannot "crap out" in craps. Your roll only ends with a 7, which is called a 7-out.

I'm not really sure I'm following all of this. By "fair odds", I assume you meant "full odds". Can you explain more please?

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Re: How to emulate the fire bet with odds? How would the Sharpshooter side bet be emulated?

Post by Billionaireben » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:45 pm

Crap out (crap number on come out roll) takes away the pass line wager, but the shooter retains the dice and other bets are still up. By fair odds, I was referring to putting money on the odds bet and how there is no house edge on that.

The only way to emulate the Sharpshooter sidebet that I can think of, without having to bet the 'any craps' as insurance; would be on a crapless table. Any thoughts?

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Re: How to emulate the fire bet with odds? How would the Sharpshooter side bet be emulated?

Post by House of Orange » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:25 am

Just bet $7 on line for every $1 craps check. Flo would be proud of you for being fully insured and not over insured!

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Re: How to emulate the fire bet with odds? How would the Sharpshooter side bet be emulated?

Post by Jeff40 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:56 am

I love the sharpshooter bet. The have it in the isle of capri in bettendorf,iowa. I always bet max on it. Witch is 5.00 Crap numbers don't take it down. Only seven out does. I've made it twice at the rhythm casino in davenport.

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