How would you handle this?

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by heavy » Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:55 pm

LOL. I'd like to be at the table with you guys just to see you toss out that kind of action. I don't care how long your pants were. They'd look like short shorts after your assholes got through sucking them up.
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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by r_ventura_23 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:12 am

Thanks for all the replies. I definitely am not working on the come out. Losing that $900 would be a major EDE.

If there are no hops, I am probably staying put. Maybe raising my pass line bet up to $25 and throwing out a hard 8 for $25....working.

With hops I am doing $100 Pass, $20 craps hedge, and $20 each hopping the 8. If I am fortunate enough to get a come out 8. I'll take $500 odds, and drop the $8 down to $300. If I make the point, I will consider that the first it at the $900....and press accordingly.

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by DanF » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:50 pm

heavy wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:55 pm LOL. I'd like to be at the table with you guys just to see you toss out that kind of action. I don't care how long your pants were. They'd look like short shorts after your assholes got through sucking them up.
Well in the last weeks I got my six or eight to 420 three times, 150-210 is very very frequent. I played poker for 15 years... ain’t shy to push chips when it’s profits...keep tweeking my progression to do it systematically.

My new numbers:
18-24-24-54-66-66-96-198-198-420.
Used to be
18-24-24-54-60-60-90-150-210-210-420.

I slowed the raise to collect more and reach it in big rolls only to raise overall profits on decent hands.

But I also play high roll hands.

60-96-96-198-198-420-420-900.
Or
42-48-96-150-198-198-420-420-900.

Seen a high roller this week doing this:
30-126-186–210-300-600-600-1200.
Not there yet lol. But it’s basically add 60$ on both first hit, collect third, powerpress to 1200-2400
My mod of this play would be
30-120-180-210-420-420-900-900-2100-2400.
I tested it in my app and got up 10k in two good hands. Pretty decent! But man is it costy to be a big gum when it doesn’t work lol, saw -4k also!

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by DanF » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:37 pm

heavy wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:55 pm LOL. I'd like to be at the table with you guys just to see you toss out that kind of action. I don't care how long your pants were. They'd look like short shorts after your assholes got through sucking them up.
If you are gambling and are stressed out with money on the table, you need to gain a good experience at tournament poker. Chips on the table are only chips until they are changed by the cashier, you have: a buy-in, a strategy to execute and a cash out. Chips are chips, until you cash them out, it should NEVER stress you to make the right move at the right time.

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by heavy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:20 pm

I would venture to say that out of the 740 or so members of this forum there are fewer than 20 who would bravely step up to the table and hop the sevens for $300 - or anywhere near that sort of action. Hell, most aren't even willing to Lay all the numbers and risk losing ONE of them in an effort to toss a seven and win ALL of them on the Come Out. It's just not the in the nature of most of the guys here. I may be wrong but I've been running seminars with these guys for twenty years now and I can only think of - maybe six guys in all that time who would bet that kind of action.
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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by 220Inside » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:18 pm

I certainly haven't seen any putting out anywhere near that sort of action in my time here.

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by House of Orange » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:00 pm

Yup, and don’t think for a moment di detractors haven’t mentioned it on other boards. If you have a dedicated gambling bankroll and are good (not yet I), you are not complaining about table minimums, in fact you seek the higher minimums to keep The unwashed masses at bay.

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by DanF » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:44 am

House of Orange wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:00 pm Yup, and don’t think for a moment di detractors haven’t mentioned it on other boards. If you have a dedicated gambling bankroll and are good (not yet I), you are not complaining about table minimums, in fact you seek the higher minimums to keep The unwashed masses at bay.
Table high minimum is a good thing, it limit action to those who can handle the game and forces you to play smart and not waste money on stupid bets. 5$ table is fun too, but it’s the worst for progressions, you always overbet your buy-in trying to make money worth the action and the dices won’t give you 5 more hits because you are playing at a lower limit and expect to win big.

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by memo » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 am

r_ventura_23 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:12 am Thanks for all the replies. I definitely am not working on the come out. Losing that $900 would be a major EDE.
I am kinda with Heavy and DanF on this...
That 900 is the tools of the trade. Just chips, or 'bullets' to go into battle with.
If loosing it is a major EDE, then bring it down to a level that it is not. Do not let it get into your head.
There is no disgrace, no good or bad in that. It is your internal belief system that is important.

There is a huge amount of good information listed above...Develop an approach that will work for you if the worst possible result occurs. I do not think hopping the sevens at that level is it...Me, I would run with it. If I press my bets up to 900, I will have made enough in the process that I would not give it a second thought when it is lost...
And lost it will.. My optimism makes me think that it will win more before that. (my belief system)

Hang out at the tables with Pappy Van Winkle for awhile...That will desensitize you to the value of those chips.

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Re: How would you handle this?

Post by DanF » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:28 pm

memo wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 am
r_ventura_23 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:12 am Thanks for all the replies. I definitely am not working on the come out. Losing that $900 would be a major EDE.
I am kinda with Heavy and DanF on this...
That 900 is the tools of the trade. Just chips, or 'bullets' to go into battle with.
If loosing it is a major EDE, then bring it down to a level that it is not. Do not let it get into your head.
There is no disgrace, no good or bad in that. It is your internal belief system that is important.

There is a huge amount of good information listed above...Develop an approach that will work for you if the worst possible result occurs. I do not think hopping the sevens at that level is it...Me, I would run with it. If I press my bets up to 900, I will have made enough in the process that I would not give it a second thought when it is lost...
And lost it will.. My optimism makes me think that it will win more before that. (my belief system)

Hang out at the tables with Pappy Van Winkle for awhile...That will desensitize you to the value of those chips.

Memo
I wouldn’t hop the seven, I would hop the eight! Always bet for the win, never against it! Even more true on a streak play!

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