How do YOU play the hardways?

Setting and influencing the dice roll is just part of the picture. To beat the dice you have to know how to bet the dice. Whether you call it a "system," a "strategy," or just a way to play - this is the place to discuss it.

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Re: How do YOU play the hardways?

Post by Big O » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:22 pm

22 inside wrote,
Ok, so how's this for confirmation bias? I just tossed a quick hand over lunch and tried this out. $66 even, $1 HW bets. 2V set. Set a point of 8. Then tossed hard 4, hard 4, hard 10. Parlayed the first hard 4. Next hit I pressed it to $25 and racked the rest. Parlayed the hard 10 when it hit.
sounds like a guaranteed winner to me, this game is "too easy''!
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Re: How do YOU play the hardways?

Post by DarthNater » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:01 pm

22Inside wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:01 pm
Nate, I didn't realize you didn't play your GWAG after the initial come out. Interesting.

For me, I'm generally off on the come out. What I will do is if an individual HW is pressed up from a previous hit, I'll hop the hardway on the comeout.
22I,
Yep, I had to dial it back to the first come-out for a couple of reasons: 1) switching sets seems to really throw me off; 2) the risk to my bonus bet action gets excessive and creeps into my brain; 3) plus generally I play a variation of the Heavy Heatseeker, so I might have a come bet or two out there.

I went to this approach about two years ago, the jury is still out, so I reserve my right to back track. It should seem obvious when I do it or not; I say take your queue from the shooter, when I don't bet world hi/lo it should be a warning to everyone. Of course it backfired on me last year at Ballys on Vets Weekend. I was at SR2, Heavy was at SR1 getting skinny, and BD was SO when on the 27th roll, I made my point & told everyone no GWAG, yet everyone bet it - I bet a hardway to emphasize things were different. Yeah things were different alright as I toss back-to-back comeout sevens with the v-3 mutant and crash all the $5 repeaters that were one away for everybody. Fortunately I regrouped and started making numbers again and hit two repeaters eventually so it wasn't a total loss, but that little event really has stayed with me; so I dialed down the aggressiveness.

Same with the ATS challenge I took earlier this year, sticking with the same set and letting the numbers fall to me is really paying nicely, D.N8r
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Re: How do YOU play the hardways?

Post by DarthNater » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:09 pm

22Inside wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:05 pm

Ok, so how's this for confirmation bias? I just tossed a quick hand over lunch and tried this out. $66 even, $1 HW bets. 2V set. Set a point of 8. Then tossed hard 4, hard 4, hard 10. Parlayed the first hard 4. Next hit I pressed it to $25 and racked the rest. Parlayed the hard 10 when it hit.
Impressive demonstration of confirmation bias, or skill, or variance...... I dunno, take the cash. Glad you pressed, have you seen my Hardway Analytics post yet? We can program that out; in fact I'd love to see a Hardways trip report where the hards saturate the hand, that would be fun, cheers, Nate
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Re: How do YOU play the hardways?

Post by DanF » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:29 pm

10$ all hw high on 4&10. (2-2-3-3)
Take the number that hit and go to 5$ on the hw.

Double (ish)the hw on every hit.
5-10-25-50-100

That’s my strategy. Lets me place 4&10 pretty often for 3$ on a 15$ table.

Or 1$ all hw go to 5. If I and placing even already.

Also found out a 1$ HW 4 for the boys is a great way to turn down heat. It hit 10 times in a day at Paris. I was their favorite friend!

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Re: How do YOU play the hardways?

Post by DarthNater » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:37 pm

Nice, DanF ! How many hard fours in the biggest hand?

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