Dollar What?

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Dollar What?

Post by heavy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:39 pm

I'm currently at work on an article for the next newsletter called, "What to do with that $1 chip in your rack." Shootitall and I discussed this at length over our monthy BBQ lunch this past Tuesday and came up with some innovative suggestions - none better than SIA's initial call of "Coctail Server." He cited maximum return on investment as he could get a $3 bottle of beer for $1, thereby trebling his investment. Not bad.

I'm going to "stretch" this dollar question a bit for you guys and give you a total of $5 in dollar chips. You can bet them however you wish and make them last as long as you can. We'll waive the table's $5 table minimum and let you play hops, props, etc. however you wish.

Hardways hopping and a dollar Big Red, anyone? LOL. While I'm at it, what's the name of that particular bet?

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Re: Dollar What?

Post by heavy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:37 pm

Ah. We'll make it the Fire bet.
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by Knick111 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:31 pm

Heavy, what happens while the 5 dollar FIRE BET
is being paid off the casino burns down.

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Post by heavy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:01 pm

Heavy, what happens while the 5 dollar FIRE BET is being paid off the casino burns down.
Eso sólo sucede en Puerto Rico o en las Filipinas.

Did I get that right?
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by Knick111 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:52 pm

Heavy, Si.
the last time a Hotel Casino burned in Puerto Rico 80 persons died. R.I.P
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Post by SHOOTITALL » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:28 pm

I remember reading when the MGM caught on fire years ago, security had a hell of a time trying to get the folks out of the casino. They did not want to leave.
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by London Shooter » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:20 am

$1 pass, $1 don't pass and hope I last long enough to spend the other $3 on three beers :)

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Re: Dollar What?

Post by House of Orange » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:59 pm

Buffalo

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A DC

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Post by mssthis1 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:18 pm

Back in the day when they allowed it regularly I was playing alone with the exception of a guy who was making one dollar fire bets so he could get free drinks at the Rio. Hit 5 points on his third try. He took his $247 profit and vanished.

I'd probably wait for a redheaded server and "accidentally" drop the dollar chip so she had to pick it up with my dollar chips. lol.

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Post by Irukanji » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:17 pm

I'd go for the hardways if I were the shooter and try for a hardway set. Reload with the last remaining dollar on the first hardway number that gets knocked off. And keep rolling until they are all gone or it's a SO.
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Post by heavy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:08 pm

House of Orange totally score on the Buffalo.
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by House of Orange » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:29 am

Thanks. Got a question on that. There are people that put the extra dollar on the yo, and it's also AFAIK called a Buffalo. If $1 Big Red protects the hop hardways, WTF is the purpose of going yo?

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Post by heavy » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:52 am

There are several variants of this bet. The Buffalo. The Hopping Buffalo. The Buffalo Yo. Honestly, I think the guys you are talking about just like to hear themselves saying "Buffalo Yo." Typically it's the same guys who toss in an "E.T." on every throw.
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by 220Inside » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:15 am

Can you summarize the Buffalo bet? I ran into someone playing it once but didn't exactly follow what it was as I was mostly paying attention to the game in progress when I asked them about it.

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Post by heavy » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:27 am

Typically it's all of the hardways working on the Come Out - plus a $1 Big Red. IF a hardway shows on the Come Out you get paid. If the seven shows it's a "push" since otherwise those working bets would all lose. That's a basic Buffalo.

A "Hopping Buffalo" is all the hardways hopping plus a $1 Big Red. It's sort of a goofy bet since the hop bets come down after one roll, but it does pay better than a regular hardway if it hits. I guess the idea behind the Big Red portion is to keep the bet up for a second shot when the seven shows.

A "Buffalo Yo" bet is all of the hardways plus a $1 Big Red AND a $1 Yo, although some players and dealers go for the hardways plus a Yo and do not bet the Big Red.

In this day and age you may have trouble finding a dealer that even knows what the hell a buffalo bet is.
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by House of Orange » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:29 pm

Yup. it's been awhile and the hardways are all day not hops, as you said, but I swear some dealers set it up, after I dropped a nickle, as all day hard ways plus yo, no red. So someone does that, I just wanted to know the theory behind it. Of course it could be a mindless bet like the jokers who bet high low yo, another bet I have never figured out the meaning of, despite asking dealers aplenty!

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Re: Dollar What?

Post by stratocasterman » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:56 pm

heavy wrote:
Heavy, what happens while the 5 dollar FIRE BET is being paid off the casino burns down.
Eso sólo sucede en Puerto Rico o en las Filipinas.

Did I get that right?
Yes...Resorts World Manila, 38 died from smoke inhalation and they don't even offer the Fire Bet. Incidentally, a bit off topic but, they just re-opened almost a month to the day last Friday. Place still smells like smoke and death...

Think I'd try that basic Buffalo bet...
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by heavy » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:16 am

Well, that casino fire was a thread killer. Meanwhile, you've changed casinos and landed at a joint with a .50 cent "bird" game. Yes, you can bet .50 cent props. $1 minimums on the PL and DP. You've won a couple of bucks and are up to $7. What's your play? I'll take $1 on the 5, 6, 8, $1 in the Field, and all the hardways for .50 each. I'll hang onto my last dollar until I see a Horn number - then I'll take my Field winnings and get a $2 Horn.
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Re: Dollar What?

Post by Cap-n_Lou » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:16 am

I think I would honestly have more fun watching you guys call out these exotic bets and seeing the dealers try to handle them than I would making my own wagers.

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