Shootitall system, combine with Jaime's system.

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Shootitall system, combine with Jaime's system.

Post by Knick111 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:59 pm

Shootitall system combine with Jaime's system.

First step:--- play shootitall system, after one hit TAKE the the seven dollars you win on the 6 or 8 and add 3dollars to the seven dollars you won and play the 5 and 9 FOR 5 dollars each.

Now you are playing the inside numbers.
Now you have 15 dollars invested on the INSIDE NUMBERS AND 6 DOLLARS on the Don't pass line.

If you seven out, you lose 9 dollars on that shooter.
If the point is made , and the point happens to be an inside number YOU win 4 dollars on that shooter.
If the point is the 4 or 10 and the shooter makes the 4 or 10 , then you lose 3 dollars on that shooter

Now after a win on every inside number You are going to press Heavy's way.
Rack the first win Press the secound win, rack the third win Press the fourth win. etc, etc, etc.
Alright Shootitall guys/gals, lets have your questions and comments.

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Post by Knick111 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:56 am

Goodmorning guys/gals,

$5 dollar bill and americraps, you are always looking for new systems to play around with at your craps pit, try this one out on your next practice get together.

You are playing with fun money, if the system works Then go to your local casino and make some money.

where is MAD DOG,, HEAVY, SHOOTITALL, THE I MAN,WIZARD, LONDON SHOOTER,
and all the guys that know about systems, any takers?

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Post by Knick111 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:19 am

Good man, give it a try AND report back to us.

Down here in Puerto Rico, has been raining now for 3 days, how is the weather where you are.

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Post by Michael » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:26 am

Jaime,
Send some rain to central Alabama.I haven't had any in over two months.
I've played with your system on the computer and it looks pretty good.
Second hit on 6/8 I added a $5 4 & 10.
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Post by Knick111 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:46 pm

Mike, if you play at your local casino with this system do you know first hand when you are going to stop playing and going home with your winnings.

expect rain---SAT at 5pm in the whole state of alabama and snow on sunday.

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Post by heavy » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:53 pm

Heavy is up to his armpits in BOTC . . . business other than craps.

With that said, I think the play has some merit. The downside - you KNOW the seven is coming and it's going to wipe out all of that pressed up action. You might be better off just "right-sizing" your bet to begin with and not do all of the press moves once the bets are established. Let's try this:

$30 DP

Place 6 and eight for $30 each.

First hit pays $35 - same bet - $5 profit guarantee locked up.

Second hit pays $35 - place the point (if it's not six or eight) for $25 and lock up $10.

Third hit - same bet - lock up $35 or wipe the board and start over if the ugly number shows.

Fourth hit - place the five or nine OR the SISTER of the point if you don't have it already - for $25 and lock up $10.

Fifth hit - same bet.

Continue in this matter until you have all of the point numbers covered.

If at any time you have 2 or 3 tosses with no payout - bring down everything except the DP and the Place the point wager (you should have placed the point in an amount sufficient to guarantee you a win whether the seven shows or not. Do I need to explain that?

I'd also be receptive to turning the place bets off on my usual indicators - trash numbers rolling, cocktail server interruptions, dice off the table, stick change, etc.

So there you go. One way to play it. There are certainly others.

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Post by Knick111 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:02 pm

Heavy, what have you done to my system/ shootitall.

You have taken a [[ Picaso / spelling in spanish ]] i think, and turned it to a juan del pueblo painting.
NO, their is no changing the system to a Heavy system, try it the Frank Sinatra Way. I Did it my way.

wait for it--- the URL for i did it my way.

Heavy, the reason i now call myself Jaime Garcia-- not the baseball player, is because their is a M.L.B. player with the same name that i have.

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Post by Michael » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:10 pm

Jamie,
I would buy in for $400 and start looking for a stop point when I got ahead $200.
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Post by Knick111 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:31 pm

https://youtu.be/egY8rUpxqC

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Post by SHOOTITALL » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:46 pm

Guys: There are many, many tweaks to this play, OH-CM. The reason I thought this up was a way to travel around the table without getting killed until it was your turn to shoot again. Yes, this system can and will make money. You see, when you have a guaranteed
win on the table, that is the end of my system. What happens after that is pure gravy. Now that becomes your system regardless
of how or how much you increase your bets. My interest lies in someone enhancing the original concept of guaranteeing a win with less than one hit.
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Post by Michael » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:21 pm

Thanks for giving us a starting point SIA
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Post by heavy » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:30 am

Just remember, if you ever hear SIA say "He CAN'T roll another four . . . " you should BUY the four immediately. Actually, you should have been on it ten rolls ago.
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Post by Moe Bettor » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:50 am

Assume (bad word) this is a WOTCO system of betting. So a 7 on CO wipes everything, right? Or is that you make a DP of $6, then place the 6 and 8 for $6. That way if there's a CO 7 or 11, you only lose the DP. But all that aside..let's say you go DP for $6, the shooter then rolls a 6. Nevertheless, even though you have a DP 6..you place the 6 for $6..and the 8. If it bullfrogs, you win a buck anyway.

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Post by SHOOTITALL » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:45 am

Thnick. Yes, the second scenario is correct. Play $5 on the DP, then if the shooter tosses a point, place the 6 & 8 for $6 each. Yes, you can adjust the bets to what ever as long as they are close to equal: $30 DP, then $30 6&8, $100 DP then $96 6 & 8.
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Post by Knick111 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:58 am

Goodmorning shootitall, I can give you a system that will gurantee you a win 7/24


First you must move to las vegas, when you get there SEND me a pm and i will pm you back the system to win every day. [ Gurantee. ]

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Post by Americraps » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:47 pm

OK, here's my variation on Heavys version of Shootitalls play, with nods to Charlie009 and Mike.

$30 DP

Place 6 and eight for $30 each.

First hit pays $35 - same bet - $5 profit guarantee locked up.

Second hit pays $35 - place the field for $10 and the five for $15, lockup $10.

If the next hit is a 4,9, or 10, use the field payout to place that number, and keep the field bet. If it is a 5,6,or 8, replace the field bet and lock up the extra. If it's a craps number, lock up $5 and press the 5 with the remainder of the payout.

Continue in this matter until you have all of the point numbers covered. At this point, you could remove the field bet, or keep it.

You can start pressing from here or just collect. I would want to get the 5 to $25 as soon as possible. I think I'm going to wargame this.
Note: As I have wargamed this system, it has changed considerably.
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Post by SHOOTITALL » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:24 pm

Jamie, cousin to the BB player: I am SOL. I will never go to LV again. I quit going several years ago because I did not like the airport treating me like a criminal. F'em. It' ~1800 mile drive so, alas, I be TX for the duration. I have only heard of one system that is a sure fire winner: It takes a partner, but you play either pass or don't pass, he plays the other, every hand. Then, drink all the free scotch you can stand or until you can't stand.
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Post by Knick111 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:47 pm

Greetyngs S,I,A,

You are in the right track, you need 2 players to play this system, you never lose.
now you ask yourself, how can their be a system that never losses.

well there is , BUT YOU MUST BE IN LAS VEGAS TO WIN WITH THIS SYSTEM/

THE WORST YOU CAN DO IS BREAK EVEN, AND YOU WILL WIN 99% OF THE TIMES.

I have given this system to $5 dollar bill and americraps BUT they can not use it because they are not located in las vegas.

coments OR questions---will be glad to answer them. Jaime Garcia---not the baseball player.

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Post by KrapsNovice » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:54 pm

jaime1943 wrote:Greetyngs S,I,A,

You are in the right track, you need 2 players to play this system, you never lose.
now you ask yourself, how can their be a system that never losses.

well there is , BUT YOU MUST BE IN LAS VEGAS TO WIN WITH THIS SYSTEM/

THE WORST YOU CAN DO IS BREAK EVEN, AND YOU WILL WIN 99% OF THE TIMES.

I have given this system to $5 dollar bill and americraps BUT they can not use it because they are not located in las vegas.

coments OR questions---will be glad to answer them. Jaime Garcia---not the baseball player.
Hey Jamie,

There are so many cities to play in. Bill, Americraps and I live in the Chicagoland area with many casinos.

Just wondering why it is vegas or nothing.

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Post by KrapsNovice » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:00 pm

I tried SIA'S system it did not work out well at first the naturals were hot, so I played the DC after the DP comeout roll and placed after my DC point was established. I made a few units.

Thanks for the system SIA. If I have time tomorrow I might try Jamies version.

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