How Would YOU Bet with a $100 Bankroll?

[Dark Side]

Betting with $100:

$5 DP

On the C/O a natural is a loss and I'm finished with that shooter. Aces or a three is a win, take both units down and wait for the next shooter. If the C/O's were loaded with naturals, I'd change to a 5 count and move to the DC.

Win goal $30, loss limit $30.

If the table went stone cold, I would double my DP / DC bet and play until my first loss, then walk.

I would never play a $10 or $15 table with a $100 buy in.

DS

[heavy]

Nice to see these old threads cropping up again. It shows me some of you are actually digging into the forum and reading. There are some real gems if you have the patience to look for them.

Allow me to toss out an alternate choice here along this same $100 line.

Assumption #1 has been that you're betting with a $100 bankroll that you scrimped and saved. It's cold hard cash you earned.

Assumption #2 is that you're betting $100 in promo chips the casino gave you. They gave you an option of taking $5 chips, $25 chips, or one $100 chip. The chips can be played on any even money bet (that leaves the Field out as it sometimes pays double or triple).

The question - would you play the promo chips differently than you would the cash? If yes, how would the play differ? Details of the promo chip play appreciated.

[Dylanfreake]

I would play promo chips the same ----a $5 DP wager.

[London Shooter]

If even money only then does that in effect mean only PL/DP or Come/DC?

I guess it depends if you want to max your chance of a big win, or try and get as near to true value out of the deal as poss.

If trying to max your win, take one single $100 chip and put on either PL or DP.

If trying to get best value out of the deal then do the same play 20 times using $5 chips.

[flextimeLV]

Talk about the spirit of Thanksgiving. You guys gave great responses! Many thanks and Happy Thanksgiving from the Tunica HS 8th floor!

[Dylanfreake]

Wish I were there flex. Have a good Thanksgiving.

Back when Gail played at ST , I would receive a $5 promo chip coupon each week and I would pick it up and rat hole it . The plan was to have about $200 or $300 in promo chips and play a session with nothing but promo chips.

I had visions of blowing the minds of the dealers and the pit by playing the DP with nothing but promo chips. But.........as I put down my first chip on the DP, I was told that I could not play the promo chip on the DP , but only on the Pass Line. I never got to blow the mind of the dealers

I think I have only played at ST once since then and that was a few years ago , maybe 6 or 7.

[heavy]

If even money only then does that in effect mean only PL/DP or Come/DC?

I supposed the Big Six and Big Eight could come into play as well. To that end, perhaps a Boys in the Hood version of SIA's One Hit - Can't Miss play. $10 DP. $10 each on the Big Six and Big Eight. You'd have three shots at making a little money and you'd still have two $5 chips left if you lost it all.

Now, if you could play it on prop bets as well that would open up another avenue completely.

[London Shooter]

I asked the boxman last year at Treasure Bay in Biloxi what I could put my $5 free play bet on. Anything you want was the reply, so I stuck it on the All portion of the ATS and proceeded to come up one number short of the full house Now that would have been one hell of a nice return for a promo voucher......

[gargoil]

10 PL with 10 odds. 12 on the 6/8. Rack up the money from the 6 or 8 twice then use any other hits to fill the line (place bets) and then press every other hit. I have done this a few times and colored up close to 500. One time I had almost 740.00 on the line when an argument about a payout ensued. I went off then the seven showed. Collected almost 1000.00 from a 12 6/8.

Always listen to that little voice in your head when he says pull your money back. It has served me well.

[Dark Side]

If even money only then does that in effect mean only PL/DP or Come/DC?

Put the free money on the PL and use your own money on the don't.

Watch the reaction you get.

DS

[JimmieKrackKorn]

While scanning through previous threads, this one caught my eye. Buying in with $100, with very few exceptions, is the only way I play.

First a little background. I live in a 1 casino town. I don’t schedule time to visit the casino so when I decide to play I’m at the casino’s mercy. Usually only one table open, sometimes only half the table. The half that is open is not always on my preferred throwing side. I could be the only one at the table or I could be waiting for a spot to open. I don’t plan on spending much time there. Depending on the number of people and the length of rolls I would like to throw at least 2x.

The table is $5/min 3/4/5x odds. I have a few absolutes.
Pass Line: $5 with odds of $5 4/10 $10 5/9 $15 6/8
Don’t: $5 with odds of $10 4/10 $9 5/9 $6 6/8.
If a shooter is hitting multiple hardways I will throw $1 on all the Hard Ways.
Will not replace if knocked off
If hit will make it $5 and leave at $5 when hit again or until knocked off
If a shooter is hitting multiple Horns I will throw a $5 Horn High Whichever is hitting
When place betting I use CPR method 90% of the time. Classic Regression when I “feel” table conditions are right and bankroll is sufficient
I don’t buy or place the 4 or 10

Now onto my play
When I buy-in after a Pass I will get on the pass line with the shooter
If shooter in repeating inside numbers I will place bet
If I were smart I take place bets down after 3 misses but I don’t

When I buy-in after a SO or for any new shooter I wait until they make a Pass
If they have been throwing garbage numbers I will wait until point is established and place the point followed by 2 Come Bets w/o Odds
If they have been throwing inside numbers I’ll jump on the pass line with them

If a point moves to one of my place bets I will straddle the Point.

If 2 consecutive shooters fail to make their pass
I will play the Don’t with odds and 1 DC with odds. I replace the DP/DC only once if knocked off.
If shooter makes Pass I will stay on Don’t one more time.
I may hedge with $1 Yo on DC bets or $1 Yo and/or $1 Any 7 or $5 World on Come Out roll

Another Don’t method I use is the Hedge Hog
$10 DP $6 place on $6&8
Again not smart enough to take down place bets after 3 misses

When I shoot
Pass w/odds and 2 Come bets I need to find a good method when I throw

That is how I play with $100 Buy-in. I get paid in white and red while others are getting paid in green and black. Sometimes I walk out with a few whites/reds other times a few blacks. It’s all good

I have been trying to use Heavy’s Heat Seeker but rolls aren’t long enough. Also been toying with a choppy table method of Pass Line w/Odds followed by 2 DCs w/o odds

[heavy]

I might suggest you try Shootitall's One Hit - Can't Miss. In a $5 game you can play $6 DP or DC - then place the six and eight for $6 each.

With a $100 buy in I'd forego the horn action and I'd REALLY have to be convinced before betting the hardways. Press to $5 is fine on the hardways. I'd go up $5 if I got a second hit instead of locking it all up. Just my opinion. A $100 bankroll doesn't allow much wiggle room. Then again, sometimes a lightning strike will get you there. I saw a guy with a $20 buy in cash hour something like $6K one time - and almost all of it came off hardway wins.

[JimmieKrackKorn]

I will definitely try Shootitall's One Hit - Can't Miss. The horn and hardways don't get played that often maybe 1 or 2x a session. Thanks Heavy

[Dylanfreake]

If I had a $100 Total Gambling bankroll , I would make a table minimum place bet on the 6 and 8 on each shooter. After either one hit , I would come down on both bets and wait for the next shooter.

Also, keeping in mind that after I was ahead , I would be making sure that I was going to leave the table with a profit, no matter how large or small that profit would be.

And when should I leave the table if I were behind ??? Probably , if I were behind between $12 and $24. With a $100 bankroll, You would be playing scared and a 20% hit on your money would be a big deal or at least it would be for me.

[Dylanfreake]

Irish , I thought this thread was for wagering with $100 , which is all you have for beginning your total gambling life. In this instance a $100 Total Gambling Bankroll and a $100 Buy In at the craps table would be one and the same.

However , the better way for Bankroll Management would be to have a $2000 Total Gambling Bankroll and use 5% of that , which would be $100 for your Buy In.

[Sockeye]

Most of the players on the LV strip buy in at $100. That's my buy-in. Those first several rolls are critical, because if they're all losers, you're basically done. I try to choose the table well, meaning watching for a while before I buy in. Try to not buy in if a warm streak is just ending, which you can tell because the big money betters are leaving. If I think I'm going to shoot well, I'll look for a table with a prime spot open next to the stickman. if the table just looks like it's the right time to get in, I won't worry about the position. When I don't know the shooter, I sit out a few tosses and watch. If/when I get too happy and ignore this rule because everybody at the table is happy betting, I usually lose on it.

I make minimum bets. A PL bet with no odds on an outside number, or single odds on a 6/8 point. Or skip the PL and just place the 6/8 for $12 looking for a hit. I press slowly. I keep the first hit, put a new bet in play on the second hit -- usually a 9, or a PL odds bet if I didn't have that already. I try to never be exposed more than $30 until I've started getting some wins. It's a bit precarious, but that's how I play. Once I'm up $50 or so, if the table is going well and I know the roller's style, I play my preferred way, with minimum bets on the 6/8/9, and $10 odds on the PL, keeping my alternative collect/press response to hits. I'll play the field when it's hitting a lot (only if it pays 3x on a 12), and the AS/AT because it's just fun. On a long roll, I'll get to $24 or $30 on the inside numbers, and the same on my PL odds, rarely even to max odds on the PL. But that's not common to have that much exposure on a roll, and takes a lot of hits to get there.

I was going to write a trip report since I just got back from LV tonight. I bought in 9 times over the weekend at $100, had two nice $250 wins and a bad last day where I was "chasing a win" at multiple tables at the Bellagio and gave back half my weekend winnings in 90 minutes. It was house money, but still, I wish I would've taken a walk out the front door after losing $100.

[London Shooter]

Welcome aboard Sockeye.

You should definitely do a trip report over on that forum from your recent trip. Many of us would welcome the read.

[SHOOTITALL]

Guess since I am so cheap, I'll weigh in on this one with what no one has mentioned:
If a RR makes his first point or a seven or an eleven, then bet the DP. Only after he has made his first pass.
Then if you lose that $5 bucks, bet $15 against the 3rd point, then 35 against the 4th point.
There is a 40% chance that a player will make his 1st PL-Point.
There is a 16% chance that a player will make a 2nd PL-Point in a row.
There is a 7% chance that a player will make his 3rd Point in a row.
There is a 3% chance that a random-roller will make a 4th winning PL-Point in a row.
These stats are from MP from years back. Good to know
If that goes awry, Start again on the next shooter. You got $45 bucks left so you can do up to the $5/15/25
If you lose that, it's just not your day. But you make $5 for every attempt that wins.

[heavy]

Here's one for you. We know two our of three shooters (on average) seven out without making their point. The killer for Don't players is the Come Out seven/eleven. So forget the Come Out DP / DC. Just let the shooter establish a point. Wait one roll in case he bullfrogs it back. Ten lay against the point. Yeah, I know. We're talking about anywhere from 25% to 41% of your $100 bankroll on one hand. But if you've picked your entry point wisely I think you'll be fine.

[koreancowboy]

Probably play the same system that I do now.

One unit on the Pass

Minimum on the 5/6/8

One unit on the Field

Once I got some of the casino's money, I'd probably back the Pass with Odds, but not much.