What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by 220Inside » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:48 am

scout wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:21 am Hi 22Inside,
Have the adjustments to your pressing schedule been much more favorable for you?
Yes they have. The combination of regression and establishing dominant numbers are evening out my shorter hands, as I'm getting back to break even quicker but also feel like I'm in a position to take better advantage of medium to longer hands with the unbalanced regressions. It's wargaming pretty well in practice and I've taken it out into the wild a couple of times too.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by Moe Bettor » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:58 pm

Me shooting after two rolls, $30 6 and 8, min odds on the line bet. One hit down to $12 6 and 8. Same bet on a hit puts me up slightly , then press the lights out. I will pull at $50 for $1 and then press til I get $105. Pull once there and continue. Meanwhile I will probably place bet numbers I usually throw. On randies who show me a couple inside numbers, $12 6 and 8. Same bet, same bet..etc. Basically I will press strong when bets are paid for. However..if I am getting my ass handed to me on a chop like where I play the don't and lose, then play the right side and lose.. I will sometimes bet the way the big moneymaker at the table is betting even if it is completely absurd. You know..Hardways, hop the 4, 5, and 9,field, any craps..horn..I am after all, a craps opportunist.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by olddogcrapper » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:17 am

first hit same bet, second hit press it one unit, third hit regress one unit, fourth hit options as to what numbers I or random shooter is hitting, can press same number, place another number etc, fifth hit up and pull time.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by DanF » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:48 pm

Here’s what’s been working for me lately. While my throw was ruffing me up, before I fixed it back this week.

18$ single bet six. Winner split to 12$ 6&8 each.
15$ collect and 3 at risk.

Next hit 14 takes 10 to press to 36$ (risk 13$)

Next hit 36 pays 42$ switch bets and
collect 36$(23$ profits)

Next hit collect 50$ for 1$

Next hit go to 90$ 1 change

Next hit collect 100, place 6$ for dealers.

Next hit go to 180-210-300-660-900.

So it is 18six to each 12,
36-42-42-90-90-180-210-300-660-900
Haven’t made it past 210-300 yet.

When hot in profits
36-42-90-90-180-210-300...660-900 got blocked at 300 so far.

What triggers my spreading? Repeaters from session and 50$ for 1, most of the time on randys I will take two collects at 42 before I keep going.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by heavy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:37 pm

Damn, Dan. Try 30 six and eight to $18. Next hit press to $24 each. Next hit press the one that hits to $42. After that:

50 - 1 lock up
go to 90
105 - lock up
go to 180 - lock up 15
210 - lock up
drop 30 go to 420
500 for 10
go to 900

Now you're cooking with gas . . .
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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by DanF » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:30 am

Yeah some days are bad. But it balances out.
I’ve been using this for a while...my throw does have to be A1 for it to work or I do dilute it a bit like you said... but I love the power press moves and I usualy get away with 4-5 sixes per good hand. It’s the price to pay to make the green! I average 500$/h on this when hot and I use regression for start of every session to lockup winnings and start it over even more aggressive.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by Moe Bettor » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:52 am

On board with $30 6 and 8 to start and the regress. If table's been rocky it looks like $12 6 and 8 on the regress.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by DanF » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:38 pm

Most tables 30$ 6&8 will kill you on short rolls.
You need a plan B, C and D.

1 bad table turn cost ya 600 bucks. That’s a deep hole to come back from.

My way I can get away with losing for hours and then bang the big bucks over my losses.

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Re: What is your "trigger" for pressing your bets?

Post by DanF » Fri May 24, 2019 5:53 pm

heavy wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:37 pm Damn, Dan. Try 30 six and eight to $18. Next hit press to $24 each. Next hit press the one that hits to $42. After that:

50 - 1 lock up
go to 90
105 - lock up
go to 180 - lock up 15
210 - lock up
drop 30 go to 420
500 for 10
go to 900

Now you're cooking with gas . . .
Every time you start with 30 each you’re cooking with gas. 30 isn’t enough to bring a good profit on a short hand. It’s barely enough to break even. I don’t play to break even.

Also if you press too steep you don’t collect enough. You need a LOT more collecting or you leave a lot of money in the casino.

I made a lot of testing and visits this year to boost my profits and manage to have great hands.

Two things will spike profits, you don’t need to press to 1k to make 1k profit on a hand. We all want the 20k hand but you will see it once every two year and playing in that focus, you leave a lot of money on the tables.

Most hands will not get further then 3-5 repeaters on a number, great hands might have 6-9, unreal hands will have 10-15 and unbelievable hands just don’t look to ever stop... but if you want to profit this game, you need to aim to profit most hands.

Have two levels of betting, casual bet (low and hot table hands out of profits.) don’t overbet your bankroll or you’re just digging in your profits...

I personally think 5$ table is a trap, cuz it takes too much progressions to get any win limit gains.

I play mostly 10-15$ tables and some 25$.

Which is why you see some high numbers in my progressions.

My favorite regression is 18$ 6&8 to 12$ 6&8 on first hit. Then I work my system, I don’t regress from 30, I do 18 or 60.

Most time I will only use a progression and hope for 3-5 repeats on my bets to profit.

I used to be uber aggressive on first hits, but came to realise most of you were right, you need to have your bets paid out quickest possible. But I found that aiming too high does just as much dommages.

You ned to press to a bet higher then you pay grade and collect the heck out of it.

My two fav progressions now are:

12-12-30-30-30-66-66-90-90-210-210

Pays
-12/2/-2/33/68/67/144/249/229/474/

My goal here is to grab 68 or 144 $ on 6&8 most times and build a profit to switch to my second level.


Second one is my holy grail:

36-42-42-90-90-90-210-300-420-420-420-900...

Pay:

-36/0/49/50/155/140/295/525/1015/1505...

My goal is to grab the 155 or go to 900

If you count right you realise I leave my starting bet and current bet out of the equation, counting only what I racked, but at some occasion if my bets pressed quick to black chip level, I will regress to minimums again to lock up my presses and start over.

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