Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

The forum name says it all. You're new to the game of craps and don't have a clue where to begin. Pass Line. Don't Pass. Come. Don't Come. Hardways. Big Six. Big Eight. The Horn. Good Grief! Sounds like back when you were trying to make a decision about what to do in the back seat on that first car date. Well never fear! There are a few folks around here who have spent enough time at the tables to be able to answer just about any question you may have. So step right up and get a clue!

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Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by DoSA » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:16 pm

I use to play craps. Lost my way and now I am found. Now I just need to find that CLUE.

A few of the gray hairs may remember me, some may not want to. :(

All of my youtube videos are gone with the wind, as is my table. Still have 2 practice rigs.

I am retiring from my day job soon and will be getting back to practice - yep practice. For those that remember me - practice is what I do. Had some pretty good results along the way. I still have my "Golden Arm" plaque date July 16, 2006. I still have a packet of lights that Heavy offered up if I'd toss a hard 8. Bottom line.... I'm baaaaack. Will be even more so once I start my terminal leave in a couple of week.

DoSA = Dave of San Antonio

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by Dicepops » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:51 pm

DAVE!!!
Plan your play...and...PLAY that PLAN! Not the casino's plan. Not the dealer's plan. Not the other player's plan. Not other Board members' plan. YOUR plan! Own it and do it!!!

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by heavy » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:36 am

LOL. Main Street Station. The day the dealerette got off work at the Four Queens and followed us around the rest of the day, playing craps. She recognized a group of shooters when she saw us. Somebody queue Mary Hopkin. I know Dave's old enough to remember this one when we played it on the radio.
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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by DoSA » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:22 am

Next year I hit 65 - so yes I remember.

LOL looks like my post total lost a couple of zero's. Now I need to download Bonetracker. My old puter that kept all of my "material" is long gone.

Not really gonna say my lower back is any better but my surgery total on my spine now totals 7. Not much more they can do for me. Every few years they will have to go in and replace the battery in the Neuro-simulator. So prolonged walking and table time are something I will have to build up to. Prolonged is 2+ hours. Bottom line no hands longer than 2 hours !!! LOL!!! ( i.e. get ur bet in quick )

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by wild child » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:41 pm

Dave = DoSa

Welcome Home Dave

The APC board old hands
and
aspiring D I folks
will benefit on what it takes to get updated
during your preparation to full form.....

You being a perfectionist approach goals with the passion of few others..

I have confidence in your commitment

Please post your adventure preparing to re-enter the craps pits arena.

Your marksmanship at darts led you to a number of leading craps sessions.
Fully confident your updates on the road back to form would inspire many..

Wish I could find a recording of the theme
from Silvester Salone's original Rocky.....

Again : Welcome Home
w c = Wild Child

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by skasower » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:52 pm

DoSa,
I have never crossed your path bruddah, but as another ol' guy (few months shy of 70) allow me to say, practice is all we got to rely on otherwise the gambling budget is going to pay for those marble and brass "separators" between the urinals in all those Strip casinos in Las Vegas. I hope to make your acquaintance at one of Heavy and Howard's get togethers. Nothing beats the people who are practicing the dice toss for a day of "winner" yelling by the dealers at the craps tables and getting together with each other at those special times.

skasower...aka "less seen than the wolverine"...
Profe$$or Ka$hFi$h

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by SHOOTITALL » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:21 pm

Welcome back ole buddy. We old guys on the board have really missed your astute posting. BTW: One of our also long time buddies has moved to SA: Heavy will clue you in. He is a great shooter, a great guy and good bettor.
Crap, just remembered. I think you both were at the FW ET thing several years ago. Heck Dave, I trampled 75 this month.
Your craps plan? The dice gods laughed.

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by carrol » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:49 pm

Glad to have you back. Looking forward to your posts. Carrol

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Post by memo » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:03 pm

Hey Dave,

Good to have you back.
Lets get together and practice some, I am situated relatively close to you....If you still live in the same place,
I have a table and well equipped craps pit.

I have some issues to work on and your eye may be just what is called for.

Memo

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by DoSA » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:02 pm

WoW talk about bringing back old memories - but yep your are correct. Eye to hand coordination was key to my success in darts and I believe it's also a big part of wearing very small holes in my table ( my ex-table that is ). However, I do look forward to knocking the rust off. It'll be best if I start once I am at home alone ( i.e. wife at work ). I brought up the possibility of another table and about went nuts ( if you recall it's not a very long trip for her ).

On the subject of darts; I am scheduled to go to Nashville in May for a reunion with some of my old military buddies. We all threw darts to balance the 12oz drinks in out other hands. fyi: been retired from the USAF for a bit over 26 years.

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Post by DoSA » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:08 pm

Memo just saw your post along with carrol and shootitall.. and thanks for the welcome skasower. give me a couple of weeks and stop by any time. Or if your prepping for a casino trip i can stop by on the weekend. Always glad to help ans as I always enjoyed our chats.

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by 220Inside » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:37 pm

Welcome back to the boards Dave. New to me, but I hope we get to meet some day soon at a one of Heavy's events.

Nice to see a fellow darter here. It's been a while for me as well since I last tossed them.

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by Knick111 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:43 pm

Greetings DoSA,

This is for you.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/nPYRBsGMKOU[/youtube]

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by DoSA » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:59 pm

Thanks 22I and j1943. I do like both kinds of music - Country and Western. :) Actually went to an Eagles concert back in May - it was GREAT. I made the mistake of getting floor seats. The seats got very little use. Joe Walsh may be in his 70's and his voice isn't what it use to be but he still great on the guitar.

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by eastcoast » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:05 am

Welcome back Dave!

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by Bankerdude80 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:12 am

Welcome back DoSA. Though we've never met, I do recall reading many of your posts on the forum in past years.
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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by heavy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am

Well, I can tell all of you that DOSA is OCD enough that if he gets DI back in his POV he will be back in winning form ASAP. Okay, enough acronyms. Dave, we just need to get you into a class for a quick tune-up and a betting strategy discussion. You'll be in winning form in no time.
"Get in, get up, and get gone."
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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by DoSA » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:33 am

Just for those that don’t know me.

One my very first trip to LV, a friend kept on me about joining him at the craps table. Long story short we didn’t do to well. I didn’t understand anything, BUT I did notice that a few guys did seem to know more that the rest of us.

When I got back to San Antonio I got on the old Google machine and started searching. Found a few peeps on the net and one suggested that since I live in Texas I should contact Heavy and see about a lesson at his place.

Next thing you know I am on way to North Texas for an hour lesson with the man himself. Well Heavy was sick ( a cold I think ). But he still kept the appointment. He did a quick demo and I noticed pretty quickly that eye to hand coordination was going to be a big help. I have been playing dart for years over in Europe decades before and as Wild Child mentioned it has served me well ever since.

My time with Heavy lasted almost 3 hours not just the 1 I’d paid for. He track my tosses ( I didn’t know nothing about tracking tosses ), and makes a statement about me not throwing any double pitches ( I didn’t have a clue what a DP was ).

The ones that know me will probably let you know that very few if any track more tosses than I have. I put holes in my table felt and I’d change something in my tosses and my landing spot would change and wear another hole. If I toss the dice at home – it’s recorded. On casino trips I only report tosses that are witnessed by someone in the DI community.

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by DoSA » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:33 am

I use to post recordings on youtude – they are all gone now. But I have had guys come up to me in casinos and say “Your DoSA, aren’t you? I have seen your videos and would recognize that toss anywhere.” In my videos I wore a Stetson to cover my face – lot of good it did me LOL. Unlike some videos ( don’t want to mention Dominator by name ) a lot of the videos I’d have the wife zoom in to actually show the results of the tosses.

With me it’s really simple – bet the 6 and 8. It’s what I set for. Why? Even if I make a mistake, other than the 7 what’s next likely numbers to show up? Keep It Simple Stupid. Straight to the back wall and straight back. Straight back is the hard part. Avoid the curve. Clean hands. Anchor to the table. Avoid any unnecessary movement. Less energy is best. Practice till your arm drops off. Set your practice to be able to emulate hard and bouncy table – practice both. Study BT enough so that you can change the dice set to roll “your” numbers. Don’t bet on random rollers ( but we all do it ).

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Re: Use to have a Clue - but lost it!

Post by London Shooter » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:43 pm

Hi Dave. Well we don't know each other but welcome back.

Interesting to hear of your background in Darts over Europe. Was that just a hobby or did you ever get into playing any of the pro tournaments?

As an aside, a boxman at the Hard Rock Biloxi was telling me he is a very high standard darts player.

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