Looking to Cowtip...

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by HornHighJoe » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:14 pm

Unfortunately cowtipping didn't work for me. I took two full losses one after each other. It did help with points, which is what is suppose to do, but my bankroll can't take another hit like that.

On a side note, at one of my first job about 20yrs ago, I joked with a supervisor who grew up on a farm if she ever went cow-tipping. She told me no, and they don't like joking about that stuff, since if you ever spook a cow it will make the milk sour or something like that.

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by wild child » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:53 pm

TheStoic

Heavy has some good tales of his early working life ...in the days he worked around bovines...

Perhaps with coaxing he would share some of those good ol' cow pie tales.

Sh*t Fire .to save on matches ,
there is even a Luckenbach Texas song wrote 'bout Tossin' Cow Patties such


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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by dave716aceduece » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:42 pm

I think this system is great. The gold behind it is the parlay once on a win and 're-cycle... I play with a pretty short bankroll and found this to be a great grind. Going for the 2nd win (the parlay) I like to wait for the DC sometimes, just because I see the 7 repeat so often, especially being on a come out. But darn that PSO ;)

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by heavy » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:07 pm

I would vote for Dylanfreake for president and I am not a Democrat. Hell, I'd like to see him as Secretary of the Treasury. Put him in charge of the IRS. Make him the Minister of Music.
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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Dylanfreake » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:52 am

I`m not a Democrat.

I was at Guy Fieri`s restaurant last week which is in the Quad and we were sitting by two guys who were working for the Air Force. Both had been in Iraq and Afghanistan. One had been in the Army and the other in the Marines. One just said he was a foot soldier and the other was an IED man . You could tell both were military to the core . I also had the feeling that both of them had seen a lot of action, because they did not talk about Iraq ,Afghanistan while we were eating .

As we were finishing eating , our waiter came over and the two military men had paid for our dinner. I told the guys that I should pay for their dinner since I was a draft reject and they had served our country, admirably.

The IED guy said, "Let the government pay for your dinner. You do vote Republican?"

"Hell, YES!"

As we left the restaurant ,they walked on toward the Linq and we walked over to the Cromwell.

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by heavy » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:11 am

I like it! DF for Secretary of Defense.
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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by SHOOTITALL » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:22 am

I think DF would work well as head of the FDA.
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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Golfer » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:17 pm

Deep down he really would like to be in the DEA. :)

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Dylanfreake » Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:41 am

Deep down ,I would like to be in the middle of a college sorority.

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Blackcloud » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:12 pm

:o UNHH!!What would the princess say :?:

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by dhigital » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:28 pm

wudged wrote:It's probably not a good idea to use in blackjack considering you only win 42% of hands (meaning it's even harder to win 2 in a row,) not to mention splits and doubles.
I agree in consideration to blackjack but what about spanish 21? and especially while I'm chasing, i generally don't split or double and just hit. Get paid on all 21's, get paid on natural blackjacks even when dealer has blackjack, and depending on how you hit 21, you'll either get paid 3:2, 2:1 and up to 3:1.

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Dylanfreake » Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:54 pm

Princess would be proud of me--heheheh

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Blackcloud » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:23 pm

:lol: UNHH!!BC think-"The Shadow Knows" :lol:

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by lojackd » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:39 am

I have used a variant of this in my play....I do a progression of bet...this way, based on a Martingale theory. first bet 1 ( or any amount you can take the heat on the progression) 2nd bet double + 1 unit ( and succeeding bets to a level of ten, needs a big bank roll.....10k)
I do this only on the 7 when the dice are thrown off the table...I rarely get past level 5, and try to stay with a ten dollar initial bet. Run this through your equation, Then remember the times at the table, dice are thrown off the table, shooter says, same dice....what is the probability of throwing the seven on the next toss ?
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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by London Shooter » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:15 am

A Martingale on the worst bet on the table? How long does your 10k bank typically last?

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by lojackd » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:24 am

You are right...but remember, this bet is only when the dice are Thrown Off The Table !
The most I have ever been in the hole was 1500.00
first bet 5.00
2nd bet 15.00
3rd bet 35.00
4th bet 75.00
5th bet 155.00
6th bet 315.00

These bets are for the 7 only / after a off the table roll
I have done it and I have won money. NO Losses this bet,
Luck or Mathematics ? You Decide :mrgreen:

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by London Shooter » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:59 am

Madness I reckon :lol:

But then maybe you can show us that the maths is different in relation the probabilities based on the dice having just been off the table.


....or what if the shooter says "different dice" - which way does that tweak things? :P

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by lojackd » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:05 pm

All the more reason, to bet the seven...Look at your own table time...what happened when the dice go off the table ?
Very rarely does the man make another number....
But...maybe it is all luck...or gambling ..LOL
I have not run on any simulation...direct at the table only, first hand experience....no guarantees hahahaha.

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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by Mad Professor » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:13 pm

Hi lojackd,

If, as you say, the dice are more likely to show a 7 on the roll immediately following a dice-off-the-table call; does that apply to the Come-out cycle too?

~If so, wouldn't it make sense to make a huge wager on the Passline...hoping/anticipating that the very next roll will be a winner-7?

~Likewise, if the dice go off the table during the point-cycle; wouldn't it make sense (based on your empirical evidence) to Hop-bet the 7 for even bigger money than you are betting now, or at least put out a very large Come-bet?


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Re: Looking to Cowtip...

Post by lojackd » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:16 pm

The thread is DON'T Pass
I only have experience...when the dice have gone off the table..This is not my only don't bet, but I suppose you could make it your only bet....Bet 1 dollar...then 3 dollars, then 7 dollars..total investment 11 bucks...what do you want for 11 bucks ?

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