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by DarthNater
Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:39 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Does the ATS sit well with come betting?
Replies: 27
Views: 19149

Re: Does the ATS sit well with come betting?

Wow, 3 pounds for an ATS bet, so is the minimum 3 + 3 + 3 if you bet them all? What's the minimum on the pass line bet? Last week, I was place betting off-strip and went up on the ATS and was advised by the Stick-man that I needed a PL, DP or a field bet in order to make the ATS bets. Has any one el...
by DarthNater
Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:58 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Dark side strategies
Replies: 33
Views: 29529

Re: Dark side strategies

I just finished a marathon rereading of Dave's System, nice restoration, guys, well done! It got me thinking about my wargaming that play mentioned on the December 22nd post and the one just above. I think applying Dave's "two whacks & take down all your odds" might be worth a longer l...
by DarthNater
Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:05 pm
Forum: Heavy's Wrong Way Craps
Topic: 7 Heavy System
Replies: 44
Views: 46651

Re: 7 Heavy System

Hmmmm, remorse after stuttering and missing out on a third step winner, versus remorse for not stuttering and getting thumped on the 12th point? I guess I'm reading it differently as I saw it as a DP progression. The stutter is if you don't win the DP on step 2; otherwise if you keep winning DPs, ad...
by DarthNater
Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:11 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Heavy's Six and Eight Progression
Replies: 21
Views: 23474

Re: Heavy's Six and Eight Progression

Nice, 22 tosses in the center of the dark side universe - congrats to your friend :)
D.N8r
by DarthNater
Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:40 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Heavy's Six and Eight Progression
Replies: 21
Views: 23474

Re: Heavy's Six and Eight Progression

H-man,
You mentioned at the top of the thread that you also run a 5 & 9 progression, what is it? And have you tempered it as well for "backing the winning horse" ?

D.N8r
by DarthNater
Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:17 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Dark side strategies
Replies: 33
Views: 29529

Re: Dark side strategies

I've been war-gaming the $50 lays each on the 4 & 10 with the $100 DP then laying max odds. Its actually played very impressively against random dice, though can be a bit volatile as on a longish roll you'ld have $1100 on the table; I'm thinking only one DC or perhaps none, less targets that way...
by DarthNater
Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:35 am
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Dark side strategies
Replies: 33
Views: 29529

Re: Dark side strategies

Twice is my limit too; but it amazing how people try and martingale the don't. Especially when the next shooter is likely a PSO, D.N8r
by DarthNater
Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Dark side strategies
Replies: 33
Views: 29529

Re: Dark side strategies

Actually this guy and I seemed to mutually co-exist as my come-out sevens won his DC's with the max odds; plus as I was using the v-3 mutant set; I threw a couple of ace-dueces as well on the come-out. But I would never darkside anyone with a semblance of influence or rhythm. Yesterday I switched to...
by DarthNater
Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:45 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Dark side strategies
Replies: 33
Views: 29529

Re: Dark side strategies

I saw a similar play over the weekend in Vegas. A fellow was laying $50 each on the 4 and 10; while setting a DP of $100 with a $5 yo hedge. It was a trending cold table. Once a point was set he'd lay $300 on the don't and do two $50 DCs and when they traveled would lay $300 each. He'd turn off the ...
by DarthNater
Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:43 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Determining your session stake
Replies: 21
Views: 24515

Re: Determining your session stake

LOL! No elevator required.......
by DarthNater
Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:14 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Determining your session stake
Replies: 21
Views: 24515

Re: Determining your session stake

Did this thread get hijacked? Before MP can post an Aerosmith link, here's my take..... Regretfully I didn't have $156,000 to split into 52 parts, so I followed a different trail. Which now in retrospect seems like a good long term approach worth sharing. I setup 8 envelopes with $500 each; addition...
by DarthNater
Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:36 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: New User
Replies: 19
Views: 13730

Re: New User

KoreanCowboy, We all started at level 1. I seesaw up and down levels and sure lots of others do too, for many reasons. Like MP said in his volatility series, a lot boils down to confidence and the casinos like to erode your confidence. I have no idea what level I'm at from buy-in to buy-in, as I can...
by DarthNater
Sun May 31, 2015 10:09 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: New User
Replies: 19
Views: 13730

Re: New User

Last fall, I celebrated my 10th anniversary in dice influencing that started with 22 of us in Crapsfest 2004 after a lesson from Beau the month before; and continuing to today and beyond. I keep very precise track of my bankroll wins & losses, and can clearly cite that every year since 2004 has ...
by DarthNater
Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:32 pm
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Heavy's 6 and 8 Place to Come Heat Seeker
Replies: 37
Views: 39694

Re: Heavy's 6 and 8 Place to Come Heat Seeker

I've always liked the heatseeker. It's always interesting to watch the dealers the first time you bang a six or eight. They so want to cap your flat with odds, normally the first couple of times they need to hear it twice "no odds and bring down the place". Lately I've made the first come ...
by DarthNater
Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:06 am
Forum: Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Topic: Help MP- World on CO with ATS and 3x regression?
Replies: 8
Views: 8174

Re: Help MP- World on CO with ATS and 3x regression?

Dork, Just curious, if you are hitting more 3s than 11s, combined with 2s & 12s, then not making the points; wouldn't you be better off on the Don't Pass, vice the Pass? Sure you're bucking the devil on the come out, but you have that already covered with the $5 Red - perhaps a $7 Red instead? A...